Glenn Beck, Professor Robert George and Abortion OH-my!
I am going to copy/paste most, if not all, of this Friday transcript from Glenn Beck’s radio show. The truth Professor George reveals about Barack Obama and partial birth abortion is, sick, sick, sick.
GLENN: I mean, a lot of people say this show is like an abortion; why not. So we have probably the best conservative thinker, and I’m going to be real honest with you. Don’t put him on yet. This guy makes me want to puke. (MR: Don’t worry, it’s not the actual professor who makes Glenn want to puke, it is the truth that the Prof reveals. Sorry, I had to get ahead and interject. Continue reading folks.) He may — I get so nervous. I did a show with him one time and I — for a full hour. We left, I got in the car and one of the producers said, I thought that went well; what did you think of the show? And I said, I don’t know, I couldn’t think of anything except — did I use that word right? One of the biggest brains in America, conservative thinker. He consults with everybody because they all pick his brain and he still has left, enough brain left to be on this show, which doesn’t take very much. But he’s here. He’s from Princeton University, Professor Robert George. He’s written one of the best articles on abortion that I think I have ever, ever read because it flips the pro choice thing and shows what a ridiculous, what a ridiculous argument this really is. And the reason why we’re talking about it is because he says that Barack Obama is the biggest pro abortion extremist that we’ve ever had run for President of the United States. Did I capture that right, professor?
PROFESSOR GEORGE: Hello, Glenn, how are you? I’m doing very well. Yes, I believe the record shows and the article that you were kind enough to mention, I did my reasons for believing, that Barack Obama has the most extreme abortion record and anyone who’s ever set the policies of anyone in the United States on a major party’s ticket.
GLENN: He said just recently in this last debate that he never, ever — he was not for voting, you know, to let children die in the closets at the hospital. He said there were laws on the books; he did not champion that kind of stuff.
PROFESSOR GEORGE: I’m afraid Senator Obama is not telling the truth about that. The record is very clear. Here’s what happened. Jill Stanek, who was a nurse at Christ Hospital in Chicago and some other nurses had the experience of watching tiny babies who had survived abortions and were temporarily alive be simply discarded without even giving comfort care. Jill Stanek found one comfort baby in a soiled linen closet just left to die without even comfort care. She brought this and others brought this kind of activity –
First off, that is just disgusting. But what was the name of the hospital? Christ Hospital? What kind of hospital is called Christ Hospital and performs abortions? Is this a religious based hospital? I guess I will have to check into that more.
GLENN: Hold on just a second, Professor. Comfort care would just be somebody there with the child, right?
PROFESSOR GEORGE: If you’ve ever been with an elderly person who’s dying and it’s no longer possible to try to save them, they are headed toward death, they aren’t simply discarded. They are not thrown in the refuse heap. They are not sent down to the morgue. They are given basic comfort care so that they can die as comfortably as possible. And that’s true with babies who die or people at any age who die. But these babies were not even given that courtesy. Because they were survivors of abortion, they were simply discarded. And as I say, Nurse Stanek found one in a soiled linen closet, if you can imagine. She brought this to the attention of prosecutors. The attorney general of the State of New York said that he looked into it, that unfortunately there was no law in Illinois under which he could prosecute for this kind of behavior. As a result the Illinois legislature took up legislation supported by Republicans and Democrats and people who were pro choice, by the way, as well as people who are pro life, if you will, honor that pro choice idea which, of course, I’m very critical of. Anyway, there are people –
Hold on, back up there, the key word is survivor. Of course all babies are special, but these babies are survivors because they survived a botched abortion.
GLENN: I want to get to that in a second. Wait until you hear this, America. It’s the best thought on the pro choice stuff you’ve ever heard. Anyway, go ahead.
PROFESSOR GEORGE: Yeah, the prosecutors couldn’t prosecute, they said, because the attorney general said there wasn’t a law available that was adequate for a prosecution, to sustain a prosecution. There are technical reasons for that. I could go into it. So the legislature took up a bill that would fix that, that would provide a basis. It’s called the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. And if it had been enacted in Illinois — eventually it was enacted at the federal level and signed into law by President Bush. But without it babies could continue to be discarded in this way and without it they would at least be given basic comfort care. And those who were capable of surviving would be given full medical care so that they would be able to continue with their lives. A few people opposed this and the only person in the Illinois legislature to actually speak out against it and try to stop it was Barack Obama. He then made up a series of stories when he was confronted with what he had done for why he had done it. He said, for example, at one point that, well, he would have supported the bill but he was afraid that the bill would cut back on the availability of abortion itself because there was not a so-called abortion neutrality clause as there was in the federal bill. (MR: Yes sir-ye Barack, don’t want to cut back on availibility of abortions. [severe sarcasm]) He accused people who criticized him on that of being liars. Well, then those people there at the national committee produced, Glenn, the documentary evidence showing, proving that Barack Obama had in fact voted against a bill with a neutrality clause. So the people he called liars showed that he was lying. He then shifted his story and said that the only reason that he voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act was that there was already legislation on the book protecting those babies. So the trouble with that was that the attorney general was declining to prosecute precisely because there was not a law on the books adequate to the task. So Senator Obama is simply making up stories here to cover really a despicable decision that he made. He should simply admit that what he did was wrong. He was overzealous in trying to protect abortion and had gotten so overzealous that he was actually protecting a form of infanticide and that he’s sorry, that people make mistakes. But he is not doing that. He is making up stories and those stories are very easily then proven to be false by anyone who looks into the facts.
GLENN: Why does he stand on partial birth abortion?
PROFESSOR GEORGE: Well, unfortunately there, too, he’s on the extreme edge of the so-called pro choice movement. There are many, many people who support legal abortion, call themselves pro choice who draw the line at partial birth abortion. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, one of them famously said — he was the late senator from New York — famously said that he drew the line there because this was just too close to infanticide. The baby’s 3/4 or more outside the mother’s womb. The abortion is holding the baby by the feet. That’s how you perform partial birth abortion. The baby’s feet are being held by the abortionist. He jams a pair of Metzenbaum scissors into the skull of the baby, which the head is still in the womb and then he opens the scissors and inserts a suction device to remove the brain material and collapse the brain. I’m sorry to be graphic here but let’s look the facts in the face. And even though Moynihan and a lot of other so-called choice Democrats drew the line there and said we’re not going to support that, we’re going to support legislation to stop that, Barack Obama did not support that legislation. Then he came up with the excuse that, well, it didn’t have a health exception.
Disgusting, just absolutely disgusting.
GLENN: You know what, this health exception for partial birth abortion, can anyone provide any documentation anywhere from any doctor that a woman is physically in danger if she doesn’t have this procedure done? It doesn’t make any sense that you would have a woman give birth than hold the baby inside her while you kill it, it doesn’t make any sense. They are talking about mental health. And I’m sorry but can’t you provide at least as much documentation that maybe having a woman go through that procedure might affect her mental health in a negative way later down the road?
Gee, ya think such a procedure might affect a woman’s mental health? I’ll tell ya what. Even if I was with someone, be it a relative, friend or even a total stranger while they were being senselessly murdered, my mental health would be severly affected. In this case, it is the woman’s innocent own flesh and blood being murdered while it is partially in and out of her. Of course her mental health will be affected.
PROFESSOR GEORGE: You’re right.
GLENN: Have you ever, have you ever seen the documentation? Do they have any documentation on a woman’s physical health in danger if they don’t provide that particular procedure?
PROFESSOR GEORGE: There is no evidence for it. They don’t have evidence for it. You can always simply deliver the baby, all right? You can always deliver the baby and that would terminate the pregnancy. There would no longer be a pregnancy, but there would be a living baby outside of the womb. I don’t know if you know this case. When the partial birth abortion bill was being debated in the congress, Rick Santorum confronted Barbara Boxer who was a great pro abortion supporter, confronted her and said, look, what do you do if the baby emerges from the womb? What if the baby’s head slips out? What do you do then? When does the baby have the right to life? And at one point Boxer said, “When the parents are taking the baby home from the hospital.” She then had that expunged from the congressional record, that terrible comment she made. But fortunately for us in the age of C-Span, we know she made that comment because it’s there archived in the C-Span coverage of the Senate debate.
That is the most creepiest, disgusting thing I have ever heard. To this, I have to ask Ms. Boxer; What about married parents who tried purposefully to have a baby and it was born prematurely or some complications? Would she tell them that the baby has no right to life until the doctors hand it over to them to take home?
GLENN: Give — and I love this. Give your thesis on pro choice and how it’s a ridiculous phrase.
PROFESSOR GEORGE: Well, it’s a mistaken label because it pushes off stage the real issue that determines where a person stands on the question of abortion and that is the legitimacy of the choice. If abortion is, as I believe it is and as I believe you can prove it is very easily as a matter of scientific fact, the intentional killing of a living human being, a member of our species, one of our tiny brothers and sisters, then if you believe that that killing is a legitimate choice, whether you call yourself pro choice or not, you are favoring abortion. You are favoring the legitimacy of abortion. It’s a legitimate choice. It’s not an injustice. If you are on the other side, on the pro life side, then, of course, you are opposed to abortion. So it’s not a question of choice. It’s a question of whether we think the action is killing an innocent person, is a grave injustice, is an ill legitimate choice or not. If you think it’s legitimate, then you are for it. If not, you are against it. Compare it with slavery. Just take another example, another moral issue. Compare it with slavery. There were plenty of people at the founding of the United States — Thomas Jefferson was one — who said, look, slavery is a bad thing. It’s terrible that we have it. I prefer a world without slavery. But the world we have is one with which slavery is integrated into our economy and into our culture and there would be dire consequences for farms and businesses where slavery is used and for the society as a whole if we abolish slavery, therefore reluctantly I’m going to support the choice of people to have a slave. But that wasn’t being pro choice on slavery. That was being pro slavery. It was treating slavery as a legitimate choice. Again the issue is, is it legitimate or is it a grave injustice. If it’s legitimate, then you’re for it, whether it’s slavery or abortion. And if it’s illegitimate, then you are against it.
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